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Furthermore, the ‘resurrection’ scene makes more sense when you view it in terms of the images being metaphorical for her internal state of mind she has reached breaking point as Selina Kyle she has extremely low self-esteem, her life is constant bitter disappointment and nobody gives her any love or appreciates her for who she is there is a lot of rage and raw sexuality she has repressed and this is the moment where this dark side is starting to come out going with the animal motif of the film, the cats seem representative of her hidden animal self they are the totem of her repressed anger, waking her up and changing her. She wasn’t dead her fall was slowed down by her falling through the awnings. – Again Matches, Catwoman wasn’t brought back to life by cats licking her. In Returns, the villains themselves represent the core split identities of Batman himself Penguin the rejected, orphaned child who wallows in his own pain Catwoman the fragmented vigilante getting even with a world that has let her down and Max Schreck is a corrupted version of Bruce Wayne the industrialist, the public face that everyone sees and by extension the least sympathetic and least human of the three villains. As for the villains overshadowing Batman in the Burton movies, Burton’s approach was to try and make Batman as shadowy and mysterious a figure as possible because he wanted to present him as a tortured misfit who felt most comfortable in the shadows and not really having to be out there this is why the Joker overpowers him in terms of screen-time Batman is a reclusive, tormented introvert who lurks in the shadows the Joker is a loud, flamboyant, attention-craving narcissist who wants to steal the limelight.

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The claustrophobic gothic dark-deco design of Burton’s Gotham is an extension of Bruce’s mind-frame, shadowy and full of internalized psychological torment and the fascistic elements in the film’s design also reflect Batman’s own semi-fascist vigilante tendencies. This is EXACTLY what Batman Returns is about in a very expressionistic sense.

When it comes to the Batman of the Tim Burton movies, you have to think of him as a different interpretation one that is not so much interested in examining Batman as a hero, but in deconstructing Batman as a severely psychologically disturbed individual. It isn’t all about the eyes, although they certainly help. – Matches, shame on you for not liking Michael Keaton.

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I could talk about this movie forever, so I guess I am going to try and keep things brief, but I do have a few things I want to point out. One thing that needs to be said about Tim Burton’s Batman films is how well he balanced the over-the-top campy comic-book world aspects of Batman with the darkness and psychological depth and dysfunction befitting his world. It is actually my favourite of all the Batman movies, as you should know Marcey. It’s a pretty big call for a mainstream family comedy to be so forthcoming about the atrocities that America is built upon.īatman Returns. Also I cannot believe that neither of you discussed what was the best part of Addams Family Values – the thanksgiving play where all hell breaks loose. Raul Julia is such an amazing actor and it still saddens me that not only was his career tragically cut short, but that the last film he did was Street Fighter.

Those films were incredibly cast, especially Angelica Huston as Morticia, Christina Ricci as Wednesday and OF COURSE Raul Julia. Hearing you talking about the films brought back so many memories. I remember loving the Addams Family movies as a child, and again, more so the sequel than the original. Alright this is going to be a fucking long post, so you’ve been warned.